Comments on: what if you didn’t know good and bad? http://www.divinenobodies.com/blog/?p=391 the thoughts and life of just another nobody Fri, 16 Jul 2010 03:20:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Don R http://www.divinenobodies.com/blog/?p=391&cpage=1#comment-22528 Don R Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:42:03 +0000 http://www.divinenobodies.com/blog/?p=391#comment-22528 John T- CWG= the "Conversations with God" series of books by Neale Donald Walsch. John T-

CWG= the “Conversations with God” series of books by Neale Donald Walsch.

]]> By: Jim K http://www.divinenobodies.com/blog/?p=391&cpage=1#comment-22248 Jim K Fri, 21 Mar 2008 07:37:02 +0000 http://www.divinenobodies.com/blog/?p=391#comment-22248 This is a great question, and it's one I've thought about before. I think the Garden of Eden is a great parable that simply recognizes that something profound happened when our species appeared on this planet. Prior to human forms there were no life forms that were aware of themselves, or of good or evil, or with any spirituality. They lived as animals do today, without guilt, and without sin. But something profound happened in or to the evolutionary process, for which we have no scientific explanation, and we are different than all the other creatures. There is something more to us - something that is not physical. We are self aware, and we are spiritual. Genetically we have our roots in the animal kingdom, but we are different. And like Adam and Eve, we cannot go back to that innocent world where good and evil, are not known. The animals still live in the garden of eden, but we cannot be in it. We carry the burdens of self awareness, and the pain that it can bring, but we also carry the great blessing of a relationship with God. No pain, no gain, as we say. Now as to "good and evil" -- "good" is anything that brings us closer to God. "Evil" is anything that takes us farther away from God. In that greatest of all miracles we gained the ability to relate to God, and the burdens of conscious choice and self-scrutiny. My cat lives in the Garden of Eden, and I can pet the cat, but I can't get in the Garden! This is a great question, and it’s one I’ve thought about before. I think the Garden of Eden is a great parable that simply recognizes that something profound happened when our species appeared on this planet. Prior to human forms there were no life forms that were aware of themselves, or of good or evil, or with any spirituality. They lived as animals do today, without guilt, and without sin. But something profound happened in or to the evolutionary process, for which we have no scientific explanation, and we are different than all the other creatures. There is something more to us – something that is not physical. We are self aware, and we are spiritual. Genetically we have our roots in the animal kingdom, but we are different. And like Adam and Eve, we cannot go back to that innocent world where good and evil, are not known. The animals still live in the garden of eden, but we cannot be in it. We carry the burdens of self awareness, and the pain that it can bring, but we also carry the great blessing of a relationship with God. No pain, no gain, as we say. Now as to “good and evil” — “good” is anything that brings us closer to God. “Evil” is anything that takes us farther away from God. In that greatest of all miracles we gained the ability to relate to God, and the burdens of conscious choice and self-scrutiny. My cat lives in the Garden of Eden, and I can pet the cat, but I can’t get in the Garden!

]]> By: john T. http://www.divinenobodies.com/blog/?p=391&cpage=1#comment-22177 john T. Thu, 20 Mar 2008 17:53:10 +0000 http://www.divinenobodies.com/blog/?p=391#comment-22177 Don R. Who is CWG?? Don R.

Who is CWG??

]]> By: Don R http://www.divinenobodies.com/blog/?p=391&cpage=1#comment-22173 Don R Thu, 20 Mar 2008 17:21:00 +0000 http://www.divinenobodies.com/blog/?p=391#comment-22173 I see someone else reads CWG....It's great! I see someone else reads CWG….It’s great!

]]> By: John T. http://www.divinenobodies.com/blog/?p=391&cpage=1#comment-22167 John T. Thu, 20 Mar 2008 15:47:44 +0000 http://www.divinenobodies.com/blog/?p=391#comment-22167 Hello All Heres a good one for FEAR. F-false E-evidence A-appearing R-real Hello All

Heres a good one for FEAR.

F-false
E-evidence
A-appearing
R-real

]]> By: L.Cope http://www.divinenobodies.com/blog/?p=391&cpage=1#comment-22166 L.Cope Thu, 20 Mar 2008 15:36:54 +0000 http://www.divinenobodies.com/blog/?p=391#comment-22166 I just keep learning more in my mind and spirit--Thanks everyone. I just keep learning more in my mind and spirit–Thanks everyone.

]]> By: Don R http://www.divinenobodies.com/blog/?p=391&cpage=1#comment-22163 Don R Thu, 20 Mar 2008 14:54:20 +0000 http://www.divinenobodies.com/blog/?p=391#comment-22163 TC- I would strongly recommend Eckhart Tolle's, "The Power of Now". It is a wonderful book. It may take two readings to begin to absorb it all. It is well worth the time. Blessings to you. TC- I would strongly recommend Eckhart Tolle’s, “The Power of Now”. It is a wonderful book. It may take two readings to begin to absorb it all. It is well worth the time. Blessings to you.

]]> By: TC http://www.divinenobodies.com/blog/?p=391&cpage=1#comment-22159 TC Thu, 20 Mar 2008 14:06:57 +0000 http://www.divinenobodies.com/blog/?p=391#comment-22159 I too am so lightened by these thoughts from everyone - thanks to you all! Denise, what you said about not worrying about the everyday and how love kicks out fear - I do know that - but so easily forget. Thanks for making it real (again!). This is my church. Peace, TC I too am so lightened by these thoughts from everyone – thanks to you all! Denise, what you said about not worrying about the everyday and how love kicks out fear – I do know that – but so easily forget. Thanks for making it real (again!).
This is my church.
Peace,
TC

]]> By: Denise R http://www.divinenobodies.com/blog/?p=391&cpage=1#comment-22154 Denise R Thu, 20 Mar 2008 12:26:06 +0000 http://www.divinenobodies.com/blog/?p=391#comment-22154 I REALLY love reading everyone's thoughts and I learn so much from all of you. Thank you Don R. I'm familiar with the saying "This too shall pass" and I have been known to say it which is funny to me that you made mention of it. While I was thinking last night about what the Jesus may have said about the "now" a scripture in Matthew 6 came to my mind. Jesus told us not to be worried about the trivial things in our daily life. Then He talks about the birds and the lilies and how they don't have to do anything and still God takes care of them. I know for myself worry is probably the single most thing that prevents me from really experiencing life fully right now. Worry is basically the same thing as fear and there is no fear in love. This led me to remember the scripture where it says that perfect love casts out fear because fear is punishment. I can't be made perfect in love if I am afraid. Can't enjoy life to it's fullest. Even if it's worrying constantly whether I am doing "good" and/or "evil" whether I will screw everything up. Again thanks to all!!! I am so blessed by these posts. I REALLY love reading everyone’s thoughts and I learn so much from all of you. Thank you Don R. I’m familiar with the saying “This too shall pass” and I have been known to say it which is funny to me that you made mention of it. While I was thinking last night about what the Jesus may have said about the “now” a scripture in Matthew 6 came to my mind. Jesus told us not to be worried about the trivial things in our daily life. Then He talks about the birds and the lilies and how they don’t have to do anything and still God takes care of them. I know for myself worry is probably the single most thing that prevents me from really experiencing life fully right now. Worry is basically the same thing as fear and there is no fear in love. This led me to remember the scripture where it says that perfect love casts out fear because fear is punishment. I can’t be made perfect in love if I am afraid. Can’t enjoy life to it’s fullest. Even if it’s worrying constantly whether I am doing “good” and/or “evil” whether I will screw everything up. Again thanks to all!!! I am so blessed by these posts.

]]> By: jane http://www.divinenobodies.com/blog/?p=391&cpage=1#comment-22133 jane Thu, 20 Mar 2008 06:58:28 +0000 http://www.divinenobodies.com/blog/?p=391#comment-22133 I'd like to piggyback on Jim's post of the Eckhart Tolle quote. I was reading 'Getting in the Gap' by Wayne Dyer the other day about quieting our minds and meditating as a means of experiencing Oneness with God. Getting in the gap means focusing on the space BETWEEN your thoughts, which will bring you into the present moment, your breathing, feeling the warmth of your hands, etc....just Being. He says once we tame the ego, we have the opportunity to make conscious contact in meditation and know God directly. We are like the raindrop described by the 19th century Urdu poet Mizra Ghalib who said, 'for the raindrop, joy is in entering the river'. I don't know about you all, but I sure can't 'enter the river' when my mind is busy. I’d like to piggyback on Jim’s post of the Eckhart Tolle quote. I was reading ‘Getting in the Gap’ by Wayne Dyer the other day about quieting our minds and meditating as a means of experiencing Oneness with God. Getting in the gap means focusing on the space BETWEEN your thoughts, which will bring you into the present moment, your breathing, feeling the warmth of your hands, etc….just Being.
He says once we tame the ego, we have the opportunity to make conscious contact in meditation and know God directly. We are like the raindrop described by the 19th century Urdu poet Mizra Ghalib who said, ‘for the raindrop, joy is in entering the river’. I don’t know about you all, but I sure can’t ‘enter the river’ when my mind is busy.

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